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#1 progoran

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Posted 25 August 2005 - 23:10

kakva je razlika izmedju cipralexa i cipramila pozdrav svima

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Posted 25 August 2005 - 23:22

sto mi ovo smanjilo sliku nista se ne vidim ovo u ruci je pas da znate

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Posted 26 August 2005 - 15:52

Primjetio sam da je pas iako se bas i ne vidi. Ne znam razliku, trosim jos koji dan Cipralex i bas mi pase.

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Posted 26 August 2005 - 20:19

ve?er :D/>

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Posted 28 August 2005 - 03:04

Ne postoji razlika - to je isti lijek, isti sastav, samo drugacije ime.

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Posted 28 August 2005 - 14:56

una nije isti lek cipramil je mao inhibitor a cipralex je sssri tu im je razlika ali ima ih jos samo ja neznam pozdrav

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Posted 28 August 2005 - 16:47

Sorry, ja sam shvatla da oitas za razliku izmedju Cipralexa i Lexapro-a.
Ovo sam nasla -  Name   Cipralex, Lexapro  
Generic name   escitalopram  
Manufacturer   Lundbeck, Forest Laboratories Inc.  
First used in   Approved: 2001/2 (Europe), 2002 (FDA)  
Family   SSRI  
Indications   Depression, Panic Disorder, GAD, Social Anxiety Disorder  

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Cipralex / Lexapro (escitalopram) is effective and well-tolerated compared to placebo and is significantly more effective than Paxil (paroxetine) in the treatment of generalized anxiety disorder (GAD), according to data presented at the ECNP (European College of Neuropsychopharmacology) in Stockholm. The proportion of patients reaching remission at the end of the study was also significantly higher for the Cipralex group than either placebo or Paxil.

"These are exciting results," said Dr Baldwin, School of Medicine, University of Southampton, UK. "Patients very often present to their doctors with symptoms of both depression and anxiety, and sometimes it is difficult to decide which is the primary problem. Treatments that are effective and well-tolerated in both depression and GAD are therefore most welcome," he concludes.

The twelve-week, randomized, fixed dose study compared the efficacy and tolerability of Cipralex (the European version of Lexapro) to placebo, using Paxil as an active reference. Significant therapeutic effect was seen for both 10 mg and 20 mg Cipralex compared to placebo (p
The proportion of patients in remission at week 12 was statistically significantly greater in the Cipralex 5 mg, 10 mg, and 20 mg groups than in the placebo group (p
Overall, the incidence of treatment-emergent adverse events was similar across treatment groups.

"The clinical results presented today are further evidence of Cipralex as an effective and well-tolerated treatment option in treating both depression and anxiety," said Senior Vice President Anders Gersel Pedersen, head of Development at Lundbeck.

With the continued development of Cipralex as a treatment option for anxiety disorders the label for Cipralex continues to be expanded further than the label for Cipramil/Celexa Today, Cipralex is in Europe approved for the treatment of major depression, panic disorder and social anxiety. Known as Lexapro in the US, the compound is today approved for the treatment of major depression and generalized anxiety disorder.
Generalized anxiety disorder (GAD) is a relatively common anxiety problem, affecting approximately 8% of the worldwide population at some point in their life and nearly 15 million people was in 2002 estimated to be GAD afflicted in the seven major pharmaceutical markets in the world. It is estimated that more than half of the patients suffering from GAD also suffers from another psychiatric disorder, primarily depression.

GAD turns daily life into a state of worry, anxiety, and fear. Excessive thinking and dwelling on the "what ifs" characterizes this anxiety disorder. As a result, the person feels theres no way out of the vicious cycle of anxiety and worry they find themselves in.

The content of this release will have no influence on the Lundbeck Groups expectations for the financial result for 2004.

H. Lundbeck A/S is an international pharmaceutical company engaged in the research and develoment, production, marketing and sale of drugs for the treatment of psychiatric and neurological disorders. In 2003, the companys revenue was DKK 9.9 billion. The number of employees is approx. 5,100.

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CIPRAMIL
Cipramil (Citalopram
) belongs to the group of antidepressants known as SSRIs (Selective serotonin-reuptake inhibitors) and as the name suggests, works by moderating the amount of seratonin present in the brain.

Side-effects
The side-effects of Cipramil can include dry mouth, drowsiness, sweating, blurred vision, constipation, and difficulty passing urine, although most of these should diminish over time.
A lowered sex drive is also a common side effect of this, as with most antidepressants. If you experience any unusual symptoms or are concerned about side effects in anyway, it is important that you discuss this with your doctor or consult a pharmacist for advice. Usually these will not be anything to worry about, but best to be sure.

Dosage
The usual adult dose of Cipramil is between 20mg and 60mg per day (one to three tablets).
This is a guide only - check with your doctor.

Warnings
Cipramil can interact with the MAOIs and so you should not start taking Cipramil until two weeks after you have been taking any of the MAOIs. Cipramil should not be taken with the migraine medicine called Imigran (sumatriptan).
It is important that you let your doctor know about any other medication you are taking, or condition you may have, so that they can consider this when prescribing antidepressants for you.


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Cipramil and Cipralex nisu isti lijekovi, ali oba pripadaju grupi SSSRI.

Hope this helps!!!
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Posted 02 September 2005 - 12:22

Ja vidim da ovde dosta ljudi koristi taj CIPRALEX i da ga mnogo hvale.

    NEKI BI MU VRLO RADO PODIGLI SPOMENIK -_-/>

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Posted 02 September 2005 - 12:27

Aha ja prva :----:  :----:  :----: . Gotivan -_-/>  je stvarno.
Pazi imam dobrog dr i cim mi je on preporucio odmah njega to je to ( mada sam generalno uvek bila protiv glupih tabletica i pilulica ).

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Posted 02 September 2005 - 12:30

Tesa kad vidim tebe i ostale kako vam je pomogao da budete opet srecni i normalni u ponedeljak idem lekaru i pitacu da mi da bas njega.

  Bas volim da vidim ljude koji su se izvukli iz ovog sranja i da budu normalni.

  PUNO SRECE SVIMA ZELIM! :----:  :----:  :----:

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Posted 02 September 2005 - 12:35

Ha da trk kod dr. pa se konsultuj sa njim.
Da mnogo sam bolje od njega ali uz njega idem i na razgovore :P/>
Polako sve se u zivotu da srediti, samo treba volje i strpljenja. :)/>
Ja jesam bolje , ali treba tu jos mnooogo da se radi :)/> .
Samo lagano Vanja <_<

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Posted 02 September 2005 - 21:45

una pa ja neznam engeski ali hvala

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Posted 03 September 2005 - 05:16

Pa, ok, ali sazela sam odgovor u posljednjoj recenici.

Ja takodje imam dobra iskustva sa Cipralex-on, Od nus pojava - nista, sem par sati mucniine prvi dan i osjecaja anorgazmicnosti prva dva mjeseca...

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Posted 03 September 2005 - 16:51

una, on 3 Sep 2005, 05:16 AM, said:

Pa, ok, ali sazela sam odgovor u posljednjoj recenici.

Ja takodje imam dobra iskustva sa Cipralex-on, Od nus pojava - nista, sem par sati mucniine prvi dan i osjecaja anorgazmicnosti prva dva mjeseca...

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Ja sam koristio i Cipramil i Cipralex. Stvar je da su to sli?ni lijekovi samo to je Cipralex noviji. Kemijski Cipralex(Lexapro u USA) ima malo druga?iju strukturu kemijski(jednu molekulu na druga?ijem mjestu) i zove se zato kemijski es-citalopram za razliku od citaloprama(Cipramila). Dakle, Cipralex je noviji, usavreni Cipramil i ima bolja svojstva kod lije?enja anksioznosti a manje nuspojave. Ja sam koristio prvo Cipramil a zatim preao na Cipralex i mogu re?i da je meni zaista Cipralex (Lexapro) daleko bolji. Sad ga uzimam preko 2 godine i punnooo mi je bolje, manje pani?nih napada, kra?e traju(par sekundi maksimalno) i daleko su rije?i.Ina?e, Lexapro odnosno Cipralex koristi se u USAi meni su ga tamo preporu?ili na jednom forumu. Prvo sam ga naao u Sloveniji a prije godinu dana ima ga kod nas u Hrvatskoj(ide i na recept) _.::

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Posted 12 September 2005 - 09:47

Pozdrav Tebi,

prije 2 mjeseca kad sam ja PONOVO pukla, shrinkica mi je prvo prepisala Cipralex. Buduci da sam ja imala iskustva iskljucivo sa Prozacom kao AD-om ('99), reakcija je bila OK (diglo me odmah, cak i previse) ali sam imala velike oscilacije raspolozenja (balans je bio Helax i to je fakat bila klackalica) i prestala spavati. Kompletno! Nisu me ni Sanval ni Helax u ogromnim dozama uspijevali uspavati.
Kad sa sljede?i put to napomenula shrinkici odmah me je prebacila na Fevarin (i Rivotril kao balans). E onda sam bila tot.flatline ali u minusu, tot. letargija. Pa sam ja na svoju ruku ubacila jos 100 mg ujutro (Fevarin se pije navecer) i pila Rivotril po potrebi. Opet neka tuga, opet neka zalost... Kad sam sve to opet rekla Shrinkici, rekla mi je da sam povecala krivu tabletu i da sam umjesto Fevarina trebala povecati Rivotril (on je nivelator raspolozenja, anksiolitk ali te drzi konstantnim). Ja sam otvoreno trazila ponovo Prozac na sto se ona nasmijala i rekla da je to fakat isto samo sto su Fevarinu dodali blago sedirajuce djelovanje dok Prozac to nema i da nastavim dalje... Kad sam je pitala zasrto ne Cipralex jer me puno bolje "dizao" od Fevarina rekla je da je tome iskljuciva razlog ona nesanica i da je zato sve to bolje za mene.
Sad cu "izbrijati 3 tjedna i ako ne vidim pomake, HOCU NAZAD CIPRALEX ili PROZAC!!!
Treba mi poticaj a ne hladnokrvnost na sve oko sebe. To mi izgleda kao neka cool verzija depre. Sve ravno...

Aj javi mi kako je tebi... Big hug.

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Posted 23 September 2005 - 08:17

Zdravo svima.Dugo citam postove na ovom forumu i odusevljena sam vasim slaganjem i davanjem podrske i saveta drugima.Nisam znala u kojoj temi da pisem jer me skoro sve doticu,ali sam izabrala ovu i nadam se da ce te mi odgovoriti.

  Naime idem psihijatru negde oko 1 mesec.Dobila sam prvo terapiju rivotril 1x 1/4,pa sam drugi put dobila 2x 1/4.Onda juce na kontroli sam dobila isto rivotril 2x 1/4 i cipralex 1x 1/2.Posto mi je doktorka bolesna i nece raditi 2 nedelje rekla mi je da taj cipralex pijem prvu nedelju pola a posle po jednu tabletu.Medjutim mi je rekla da ako mi ne odgovara cela da pijem ujutru pola i uvece pola.

  Odmah sam pocela sa izlaganjem terapije a nisam rekla dijagnozu.Moja dijagnoza je tj.pisala mi je nesto sve redom f 40,f 41.f32.

  Ja se osecam uzasno.Kao prvo je pocelo sa vrtoglavicama koje sam imala konstantno,kad sam hodala nije mi bilo normalno(kao da noge nisu moje nego tudje),vremenom dobila fobije,postepeno jednu po jednu.....da bih se sad na kraju zavukla u kucu izmedju cetiri zida i nigde.Zbog svega toga sam postala depresivna.

  Videla sam ovde da dosta vas ima simptome iste kao ja ili je bar nekad imao.Zelela bih neki savet u vezi toga.

  Najvise sto me sad brine je taj lek cipralex jer u njemu pisu svakakve nuspojave,a najvise se plasim sto se tamo pominje neki suicid.....Vi koji ga pijete znate verovatno o cemu pisem.

  Volela bih da znam pre nego progutam prvu dozu kakva su vasa iskustva.Za koliko ste osetili poboljsanje?

  I za sad toliko, ja vas udavih.Najlepse vam se zahvaljujem i nadam se skorasnjem odgovoru.

  Pozdrav!

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Posted 23 September 2005 - 11:01

Hej Glorija, cao,  "33"
Ja pijem Cipralex iliti Lexapro 6 mjeeci i pomogao je jako brzo, ali sam pravi ucinak osjetila nakon pet mjeseci. Prvo poboljsanje sam bukvalno osjetila nakon par dana, ali ne znam da li je to bila autosugestija or what...

Uglavnom, svi AD imaju slicne nus pojave, ne citaj to, moras vjerovati u lijekove koje uzimas...
Kiss, UNA

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Posted 23 September 2005 - 14:32

Hvala Una!

Imam dilemu kad je najbolje popiti tabletu ujutru ili uvece?


Hvala jos jednom Una sto si me primetila :unsure:/>

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Posted 23 September 2005 - 14:47

Ujutro...nakon dorucka!!!

Nista ne brini, samo naprijed!  :----: Bice ti bolje, svi ovdje imaju dobro iskustvo sa Cipralexom, to je jedan od najnovijih AD, sa najmanje nus pojava...dobro ces ga podnijeti.  <_<

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Posted 23 September 2005 - 15:43

"33" Glorija!
Dobro nam dosla!

Tko je jos osim mene da Cipralexu dignemo spomenik?!  :P/>

Super je ali ga moras redovno trositi, bez potipanja i preskakanja, i cak i kad ti bude ne samo dobro nego super moras ga trositi jos neko vrijeme.

Ja sam se zeznuo pa ga prerano prestao trositi, depra se pomalo vratila pa sam morao jos nastaviti trositi.

Ne ocekuj da ce odmah biti bolje, ako se i pojave neke nuspojave a nece biti strasne, izdrzi, nece dugo trajati, a poslije ces se osjecati sve bolje.